if your breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells, you get hives, or have vision changes or eye pain. tell your doctor if you have glaucoma, problems passing urine or an enlarged prostate, as these may worsen with spiriva. also discuss the medicines you take, even eye drops. side effects may include dry mouth, constipation and trouble passing urine. my doctor said i could be doing more to breathe better and now i am. announcer: ask your doctor about lifestyle changes and once-daily spiriva.

all over the country, discover card customers are getting 5% cashback bonus at grocery stores. now, more than ever it pays to discover. minty. handsome! mmm, minty. mindy? wow. fresh. sorry. beautiful, isn't it. breathtaking. fresh (announcer) for a fresh breath feeling that lasts up to 5 times longer there's new scope outlast. seacrest? yeah, i know.

new this morning, under arrest, a man who allegedly took secret naked videos of this woman sports reporter erin andrews and the tale of two cities, tears in chicago, celebration in rio. the fallout from the windy city's olympics dreams lost. new details about the plot to blackmail david letterman what we've learned about the produc r r producer. good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt. welcome to msnbc saturday. we have all of that plus the sigh of relief for the mother of a kidnapped baby. president obama is offering his congratulations to rio de janeiro winning the bid to host the 2016 games. speaking to reporters after returning from denmark, he was disappointed chicago didn't get the games but happy with the effort the u.s. put forward. what did rio have that chicago

didn't? short time ago i talked with alan abrahamson olympic columnist for universal sports.com. >> i think it's fair to say that the rio message carried the day. when you long at it there were three bids that were saying how, how we can put on a great games. that's what chicago said, what tokyo said, what madrid said. rio said, why. why? because the games had never been at south america. if you look at the map, you look at all and put pins on the map to represent all the games, there have been 30 in europe, 12 in north america, so many in asia, australia, none in south america. wasn't it time to rectify what to them seemed like an obvious injus it tis and the members of the ioc were like, okay, that's it. . >> the 2016 summer games will be the first olympics held in south america. so does the president blame his friends in chicago for not putting forth a winning effort? for more now on the political fallout from chicago's failed olympic bid i'm joined live from the white house by nbc's mike

vick kara. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> personal appeal from the president, oprah winfrey, first lady as well. what do you think went wrong here or is this as much about rio deserving it and that's really part of the equation as well? >> well, certainly over the next coming days, we're going to be sifting through the wreckage trying to do the forensics on what went wrong. you heard your previous guest talk about the intricacies of the international olympic committee, all the politics involved there, all the precedent involved there, all the supposed and reported bad blood between the united states olympic committee and the international counterpart. and, of course, the united states and north america having sponsored the olympics in the past and south america not having done so. add to that, the chicago angle. the president from chicago, many of his top advisors from chicago, rahm emanuel, valerie jarrett, the list goes on and on. it's reported mayor daly now in office for 20 years, longest serving mayor in chicago history, longer than his father

even, put the arm on the president to come forward. the first lady planned to go to copenhagen, there ahead of the president, had made her pitch and the president parachuted in there, controversial trip, in terms of republicans and the president's opponents, saying he is not the mayor of chicago, daly is, but president obama is the president of the united states, there was plenty on his plate. and now because this crashed and burned in such a spectacular way, chicago being the first sti city to be voted out of the competition the long knives will be out from the opponents. remains to be seen how much political damage is going to be done to the president as he heads into what's going to be a tumultuous fall season with congress. mayor daly will be facing serious questions about the commitment he put forth for chicago which, of course, ultimately failed, alex. >> all right. mike at the white house, more from you next hour. you know, let me ask this before we let you get away. this is not a wasted trip by any means in terms of we lost the

chicago bid, because when the president was in denmark, he met with general stanley mcchrystal, albeit 25 minutes but talked about the situation in afghanistan and mcchrystal's request for 40,000 extra troops. what came from that meeting? >> well, it's a very interesting meeting and the way it was handled and publicized by the white house as well which led to suspicions on the part of many the white house was doing this, laying on this mcchrystal meeting happened on the tarmac in copenhagen aboard air force one to deflect criticism that the president in this overnight trip was spending too much time worried about the olympics and not about the meeting with mcchrystal and afghanistan. >> republican critics have said he needs to meet with this man who has called for 40,000 more troops. there's a great deal of controversy about that question. the president had not formally seen that request. mcchrystal appeared in a three hour video conference, he was in london, next morning he gave a

speech where he strongly backed his recommendations, was not backing down at all, and then the president had mcchrystal fly in from london to meet with him in copenhagen and you saw the result of that. we don't know what happened but we did see the picture, alex. >> thank you very much for that. now i'm out of questions for this hour. more next hour. thank you, mike. >> bring them on. >> we have to break for now. an arrest in the case involving sports reporter erin andrews the woman secretly videotaped nude in her hotel room. police say they've arrested 48-year-old michael barrett in chicago. he's facing federal charges of interstate stalking for taking those nude videos and trying to se them to tmz and posting the videos on-linep andrews attorneys say they're determined to press criminal charges for those responsible for the invasion of erin's privacy when alone it's clear she was the victim of stalking and invasion of privacy at more than one hotel location. joining me live from boston, former fbi profiler clint van zandt. good morning to you, clint.

>> hi, alex. >> so, how could erin andrews or any other high profile stalking victim have avoided this crude invasion her privacy? i mean, should people have to think that way? >> should we have to, no. do we have to, yes. number one, she registered under her true name. if you're a celebrity, getting inappropriate e-mails, anything like that, don't use your true name. this guy who used an alias himself allegedly when he was out stalking her, called up dozens of different hotels in a town trying to find her, found out where she was registered to stay, and then got into the room right next to her. had she used an alias, susan smith, something like that, who knows, he wouldn't have been able to find her, number one. number two, stay in a different room, a different hotel. don't set up a pattern where somebody can follow you. if you get in inappropriate e-mails, realize that most of the time, somebody in the first

letter they identify themselves. if they don't get what they want, a relationship or something, they start to get, perhaps, threatening, possessive, crude, but they don't use their name. that first e-mail, that first letter, probably has the name and as we found out in this case, alex, and you i talked before, unfortunately carry duct tape and tape up that hole on the door. >> we're told that the suspect did go through the peephole. how easy is it for someone who wants to access a hotel room like that, to actually do it? how sophisticated do i have to be? >> yeah. and all it takes is a little time and little understanding what room the victim is going to be in. if we think of the average hotel room door is about an inch thick and i have a ball point pen, i took apart. this is wider than a door, but for comparison purposes, that peephole comes together on the inside, the outside. he unscrews it, cuts off part of the threads, screws it back together leaving one or two threads. when his victim and realize there are other victims, gets

into their room, he just backs that off one or two screws, takes it off the door, puts his cell phone up and starts recording a video message and sends that to his computer, alex. once he's done that he can send it any place in the world. >> what ibts a this, clint, we're told that apparently the suspect has done this to other unnamed women. allegedly so. if that is proven, does this add more charges? >> i hope so. i hope the fbi piles on this guy. this is -- you got to send a message to somebody like this that you cannot invade another person's privacy like this. so, if the fbi is able to identify these other victims, where he has allegedly posted similar pictures of them on the internet, i hope they charge him with every count, five years for every count, stack them up and let's get this guy off the street and send a message to anybody else who thinks they can do this. who thinks they're funny and cute, you're going go to jail if you do it.

>> thank you very much as always, clint van zandt. new details about the alleged extortion case of late night talk show host david letterman. robert joe halderman is free after posting $200,000 bail. if convicted halderman faces up to 15 years in prison for allegedly trying to blackmail letterman. more details starting to emerge about david letterman and his work place affairs. joining me live is ra hey ma ellis. good morning. >> let's talk about the letterman and the man accused of trying to blackmail him. >> there appears according to the "new york times" one of the women was a personal assistant of david letterman, appeared on the show and had a relationship with him. that relationship ended at some point and struck up a relationship it appears with robert halderman, the man accused in the alleged extortion plot. according to the paper she was living with him in connecticut until last month. the d.a.'s office says halderman in an attempt to get $2 million

from letterman, sent the "late night" host a package of information that included photographs, letters and a page out of burkett's personal diary that presumably revealed knowledge about letterman's affairs with women and would reveal those unless letterman gave him $2 million. >> what do we know about the other women who letterman has admitted to having sex with? >> according to the reports, in the times today, the cbs authorities are saying they did conduct an investigation, if you will, preliminarily, to find out who some of the women were. it appears there was an intern involved but not under age, and, in fact, it says none of the women he was involved with were under age or at least that's what we know at this point. and they are saying it does not feel or seem like any of these women felt their jobs were in any way threatened by their relationship with letterman. >> what about halderman, what do you know about him? >> what they're saying is that

friends of his are saying he was an amazing guy, he's a long-time prominent producer with cbs, a producer most recently with the cbs "48 hours" program. and some folks are saying that what he's engaged in now is a kind of story he would be reporting on, more than something he would be involved with. he talked about as a fun-loving, sort of a swashbuckling kind of journalist, but now what we're hearing from the district attorney's office is that he's described as a man who had financial problems, divorced and had an alimony payment of about $7,000 a month and that may be one of the reasons why he may have been trying to extort money from letterman, but it should be pointed out that he has entered a plea of not guilty and halderman's attorney says there is much more to this story than what we're hearing right now. >> okay. i'm sure we will hear it at some point. thank you. a newborn baby boy snatched from a tennessee home by someone posing as an immigration agent

has been found alive and well. in the woman suspected of taking baby yair anthony carillo is in custody and questioned by police. authorities say vitsds yo from a walmart parking lot helped track her down. the baby's mother says the suspect entered her nashville home tuesday posting as an agent and stabbed her eight times with a kitchen knife before taking that baby. the mother is recovering from the attack. well, another round of bone chilling weather for colorado today. friday, a record-setting 26 degrees was reported at denver international airport. in summit county, colorado, two to four inches of snow caused a few fender benders on the roads and some drivers said we weren't prepared for the winter-like weather. why should they be? it's the beginning of october. let's get explaining from bill karins. how did that happen? >> gloves come off in october. >> i guess so. >> northern rockies when the snow season starts. it's not that -- if it snowed in denver early october it would be a little unusual. but it didn't.

>> all right. liking it for the ski -- >> most of the snow melts anyways. takes a little while for this to stay on the ground. another snowstorm on its heels and this one will probably be bigger. anyone with plans heading into jackson hole or maybe even to yellowstone, the national forest, that area is under a winter storm watch and that area could pick up six, maybe even some spots in the higher elevations 12 inches with this next storm. southern montana, that eastern, northeastern section of idaho and northwest corner of wyoming including yellowstone, snowstorm heading your way tomorrow. here's the forecast for today. beautiful day atlanta, denver looks good, rain and storms southern texas and the heavy rain is still plaguing nous new england from boston all the way through cape cod, might as well throw the entire state of rhode island. pretty much a washout start to your saturday. it will slowly improve this afternoon. we have to watch out for isolated flash flooding. some areas could pick up three inches of rain. tomorrow the worst weather in

the deep south. i know we need it because of the drought, texas it will be a wet weekend for you and alex, new york, tomorrow, 74 and sunny. >> okay. >> lovely. indian summer like weather. thank you very much, bill karins. >> still ahead, the swine flu vaccine really safe and which is the worse, the regular flu or the swine flu? we'll be separating fact from fiction coming up on msnbc saturday. but first, the holiday toy war kicking off already. we're going to take a look at the early favorite. and is it possible halloween costume that is too tacky? some of the hottest costumes, that story when we return. . that's what's gonna happen here. because you're tasty... with toasty whole grains. (crunch) wheat thins. toasted. whole grain. crunch. have at it. great looking skin... it's in the dna. [ female announcer ] new regenerist dna cream with spf 25 doesn't just correct. it helps protect your dna without a $200 department store price tag.

olay regenerist. chef's meal with pommes frites perhaps a night at the theater with extra special seats additional hotel night, our treat your world in perfect harmony: priceless look for world on your mastercard to get rewards and offers that matter to you. look for world on your mastercard

the latest jobs report shows unemployment rising to 9.8%. most economists say the recession is probably over but

cold comfort to those out of work. president obama says health reform is the key to job creation. he argues new insurance rules would give people the confidence to strike out on their own and start new businesses. >> this is something i hear about from entrepreneurs i meet, people who have a good idea and the expertise and determination to build it into a thriving business but many can't take that leap because they can't afford to lose the health insurance they have at their current job. >> but is combining the health care message with job creation helping or hurting? i'm joined live from washington by msnbc political analyst pat buchanan and julien epstein, former chief democratic council to the house judiciary committee. good morning to you both. good to see you. >> good morning, alex. >> first question to you, pat, how much can the health care message resonate when people are still losing jobs? >> i don't think the president ought to be selling the health care message as a jobs package.

there's aspects of it that would relieve some corporations of the burden of providing health care, but i think the president's got a serious, serious problem here, 9.8% unemployment, you're getting the market had a great run up in the third quarter, but now it's pulled back a bit. i think the president has this problem, alex, that it does not -- there's a real possibility that this might be one of those infamous ws where the market -- where the economy goes down, starts back up, and then goes back down again and there are some economists, maybe a minority, who are saying that is what's going to happen because of the terrible situation that still exists in the banks. we're not out of the woods yet. >> lot of people hoping for us or vs, not ws. what can the white house say to convince americans that the economy is improving, its policies are helping? >> look at all the data, not just the stock market but when the president inherited this economy we were at negative 6 growth, now in probably positive 3 growth.

every single economic indicator other than jobs is showing we're in a recovery. almost every economist and major banks and analysts on wall street is saying it was the obama economic recovery plan that stopped us from going into the abyss and moved us back into the positive growth. the jobs issue is going to be an issue but when obama came into office we were losing 800,000 jobs a month, now only 230,000, not much solace for people losing their job but a vast improvement. i think the president has to say, the economy is getting better, the recovery plan is working, and i think he'll get a lot of political credit for that. on health care there's a lot of good things in this bill for people who are employed, for people who are unemployed and small businesses. there's a lot of benefit in the health care bill for them. >> julien, all of the statistics you put there, that's all fine and good, but really are people believing it? are they feeling it? is that message getting out there across the country or not? >> well, that is -- that is the critical question. the problem i think on the bush

years was, that even though the economy was good in many of those years, wages were never going up so most people didn't feel it. the key thing for the obama administration is going to make the middle class and the folks not employed right now feel a greater sense of economic security. so it's true, all the data shows that the economy is coming into recovery. it's going to take some time before that actually translates into people who have lost their jobs, but i think we're seeing a turn around. it's occurring but the jobs are always the lagging indicator. it's always the thing that occurs later. >> alex -- >> pat? >> i remember when george bush sr. was running for president and i was running against him, the situation was very, very rough in late night 1991, but by '92 the election time, it was moving on up. the problem is, it comes too late for the party and the lagging indicators are the indicators that people read most and closest and are most concerned about, so i think the president's got to have some movement up in this economy. i agree with julien, look, you

got all that money poured out from the fed and the stimulus and everything, it's going to give you a temporary boost. the key question is, once we start back up that hill are we going over the roller coaster and back down again? if that happens, it really is katie bar the door. >> what pat is saying, and he may not be intentionally arguing this, is that we are going to need a second stimulus plan that's particularly focused on jobs. a lot of economists, paul krugman and others, saying that's what we need to have and that may be the next fight. >> is that what you were saying, pat? >> if we're going to have a second stimulus package, julien is right, we're going to have a very nice fight. >> yeah. okay. that's what i was thinking. >> because they're lock and loading on the hill for that one right now. >> nice try, julien. i i have to applaud your efforts. more next hour. still ahead the super early are start to the holiday season why so soon and what's behind it? that story next on "msnbc saturday." wonders growing together

under the same sun. and now for the first time, in new sun crystals ® . the only 100% natural sweetener made with pure cane sugar and stevia. finally, all the sweetness of nature and just 5 calories a packet. nature gave us the recipe; we just gave it a name. new sun crystals ® all natural sweetener. two natural wonders. one sweet taste™. over health care reform, aarp has chosen a side-- yours. we're fighting to guarantee that you'll never be denied coverage because of your health or age. to prevent anyone from coming between you and your doctor. and to make sure patients don't take a backseat to insurance companies. because at aarp, we believe your health is worth fighting for. learn more at aarp.org.

i'm nervous about her going away, but i know that she wants to be able to do things on her own. (sunny) the bayer meter helps me become more independent. (announcer) only bayer's contour meter has programmable personal high low settings. (sunny) the hi/lo settings gives you a good idea of where your blood sugars' at and what you need to do to control it. the bayer meter will give me peace of mind. i want you to be happy. don't cry. my name is sunny and independence is my simple win. (announcer) the contour meter, only from bayer.

week on wall street ending with disappointing news on jobs. the unemployment rate 9.8%, a 26 year high. the numbers igniting concern a recovery in the troubled market may be off. three banks in michigan and colorado were shut by regulators. brings the nurse to 9 8. the national retail foundation expects people will spend about $10 less this year. as far as costumes go, the celebrities are proving to be most popular. one costume company predebts the most popular, michael jackson, farrah fawcett, ed mcmahon and pitch man billy mays. sometimes no accounting for taste. anyway, coming up, still ahead, new details emerging in the plot to blackmail david letterman. the latest on msnbc saturday. lf.

experts at good housekeeping agree. they gave it their seal. [ male announcer ] pantene delivers damage protection results leading salon brands can't beat. you be the expert. experience pantene. still haven't tried activia? i am definitely a skeptic. my commercials didn't convince you? actually, my mom convinced me. and? activia definitely helped with my occasional irregularity. take the activia challenge. it works or your money back! ♪ activia!

squeeze some savings back into our budget. into our attics and walls. let's locate the original energy source called you and turn that machine up full-blast. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. come get 50% more savings on insulation with the new lower price of just $9.37 per roll.

the plot is thickening in the case of the cbs news producer who allegedly tried to blackmail david letterman for $2 million. prosecutors are calling robert joe halderman desperate and capable of doing anything. halderman who has been suspended from his job at "48 hours" is free on bail but facing 15 years in prison and his lawyer insists he is innocent. >> this story is far more complicated than what you heard this afternoon. this story is far more complicated than that two minute statement by the assistant district attorney. again, it's not time to discuss it. there is another side to the story. i'm not telling it today. there is another side to the story. it's not -- it's not the open and shut case you heard about. >> well, the plot forced the late night comedian to confess to having sex with woman who worked for him. "the new york time

"the new york times" reports one is stephanie burkett who at one time lived with the suspect. perhaps that is connection. tom o'neill the senior editor for in touch weekly and joins me live. let's talk about the whole reaction to all this. late night comedians making fun of all this. >> it is. he handled it so well himself, david with his -- >> i personally did. but there are a lot of people, a lot of buzz in the building yesterday, sort of weird and bizarre, but i think he controlled the message at least. he's the one that said it in his david letterman style and garnered laughs. it was weird. >> one of his best performances because he began serious, added a little humor, and he's out in front of the story now. whatever happens next he took charge of it. >> he said he's not going to talk about it anymore, that does not prevent the comedians from doing so. let's take a listen to what they were saying. >> if you came here tonight for sex with a talk show host you have the wrong studio.

>> new book out called "why women have sex" that has a list of 237 reasons of why women have sex and letterman knows the top ten. >> okay. now, a lot of people are calling letterman a hypocrite, because he makes a career of mocking politicians for their sexual transgressions, emocks them merciless mercilessly. do you think this is damaging for his career? >> i think it's the opposite. don't you think we live in an age where people are rewarded for infa my. look at jon and kate gosselin. >> i don't want to, thanks. >> if this happened to leno it might be damaging because he has this upright family reputation, we're talking about letterman, our ras call. >> i see your point there. i guess the question should have been, should this have an affect on his career, but i think you're right, in this day and age, sometimes it's all about publicity as long as you spell the name right. >> he's different too. remember he hadn't been married for 30 years. he only recently got hitched in

march. maybe he had an agreement as an open relationship. >> it has been said that since march, he has not been with other women since he was married, so that point has been made. he had to apologize this summer you will remember for the jokes he made about sarah palin's daughter bristol. do you think he's going to have to address this again, despite saying he had no intention of doing so? >> yes. i think there was something in that package that this extortionist thought he could get $2 million for and it's so serious, that -- we don't know it yet. if this goes to trial and becomes public, there is something a little more serious. there has to be. >> i mean, pictures, so what, who cares. >> what if this gets into know sexual harassment and those issues. then we're talking about laws broken. >> that has not been alleged. >> that's right. it's not been alleged. >> okay. tom o'neill, thank you for the discussion. appreciate na. new details about the

financial settlement reached years ago between roman polanski and his sexual assault victim. newly released documents reveal 15 years ago the director agreed to pay samantha geimer $500,000. they wound up being disclosed because of a two year struggle to get polanski to pay up. court records do not indicate whether or not polanski paid. he did plead guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse with geimer who was 13 years old in 1977. he fled in 1978 before he was sentenced, being held in switzerland after his arrest there last weekend on a fugitive warrant. a 24-year-old woman is facing ten years in prison for causing a fatal accident while she was talking on her cell phone. a houston jury found her guilty of negligent homicide in the death of a 25-year-old man last year. she made a sudden, aggressive lane change on the interstate last march causing a fatal three-car accident. prosecutors claim montgomery was distracted because she was talking on her cell phone and not paying attention to her

driving. let's go now to the ongoing recovery efforts in the samoaen islands. a tsunami slammed american and western samoa leaving widespread destruction and responsible for hundreds of death. more aid is pouring in. let's go live to nbc george lewis in leone america samoa. another good morning to you. let's get an update what is the latest on the efforts for recovery and cleanup? >> yeah. the efforts continue. there are five c-17 transports from the u.s. air force bringing in supplies, kind of around the clock. we've got tons of food and also clothing and tents to house the estimated up to 2,000 homeless. here in leone, a town of about 3,000, the town is one third wiped out. it's a place where generation after generation of samoans have lived for hundreds of years and now a third of it is in ruins.

all up and down the coast of western samoa, west of the capital, we see villages wiped out and the officials here are saying that the search and rescue effort to find victims and to find bodies of the dead, is pretty much wrapped up. the death toll standing at 32. they don't expect to find anybody else. but the recovery effort now goes into high gear. there are 245 emergency workers on the ground from the federal government. fema is going to be setting up an office here so that people can apply for relief aid and the rebuilding will begin, we're told it will take about a month to restore power to some of the areas. it will also take considerable time to fix the infrastructure such as bridges that have been washed out by the tsunami. aim lex. >> okay. thank you very much, live from leone, george lewis, appreciate that. new today residents in a northern illinois city are taking to the streets for a rally to demand action in the police involved shooting of an

unarmed man. mark anthony barmore was shot and killed at a church run day care in august. police say barmore who is black and who white officers struggled over a police gun leading to the shootings. witnesses say barmore surrendered to police before the shooting. his death ignited racial tensions in rockford. joining me with more david wilson. good morning, welcome back to the show. >> thanks alex. >> the naacp is demanding a civilian review, counseling for the children who witnessed the shooting. what are police saying? >> well, police are saying that this is -- they were acting in self-defense. they say that, you know, barmore was actually, you know, resisting arrest and someone said he was going for a gun, but other witnesses have said that he was actually surrendering when the police took action and fired and shots -- fired shots at him. sorry. >> right. why were police at the day care in the first place? >> well, this was a domestic dispute they wanted barmore for

questioning and he ran into the church run day care and that's how this incident unfolded. kids were there and watched it. >> so, wait a minute. a domestic dispute. that didn't have anything to do with the church. it was at a home. they went after him and he took off and went to the day care. >> yes. >> okay. let's talk about the aftermath of all this. there have been a lot of rallies in support of the victim. another one taking place in rockford right where barmore was shot. what's the message, what do the organizers hope to accomplish? >> the naacp wants to make sure that there are some national standards for police in training when they are, you know, deciding to use force. we had the president of the naacp write a piece for our site this past week and, you know, they're trying to get behind a new bill that representative john conyers is trying to present to congress which will pretty much enforce a federal law that states that all police

have to have some sort of standardized testing when using force. >> okay. now, flip side of here, it would be if the naacp is calling for stronger legislation against police as they use force, if police are afraid of being prosecuted, is there a concern that this could also pose a threat to communities and their safety? >> i mean, that is a concern, that some police have raised, but again i think that this would also be included, those who are arguing there needs to be some sort of standard are arguing this will be included into the sort of training when it's appropriate to use force and when it's not. >> okay. how big a protest are they expecting today in. >> you know, they're expecting a good crowd. but, you know, it's worth noting there have been protests for both sides. some in support of the police and, obviously, some in support of the victim an his family. >> i'm going to ask you anecdotely are these falling down among racial lines in those representing either side? >> pretty much. there's been a lot of racial tension in rockford, illinois,

based off unemployment and the host of issues so, you know, it is pretty much a racially intense area right now. >> okay. david wilson of grio.com thank you. >> thank you. >> still ahead, separating swine flu fact from fiction. should you get the h1n1 shot? we'll try to answer that for you? but first, low budget the rils and cheers, paranormal activity really terrifying. we'll take a look on "msnbc saturday."

it's not always easy living with copd, but i try not to let it hold me back... whether i'm at the batting cages... down by the lake or... fishing at the shore. i'm breathing better... with spiriva. announcer: spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled maintenance treatment for both forms of copd, which includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. i take it every day. it keeps my airways open... to help me breathe better all day long. and it's not a steroid. announcer: spiriva does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. stop taking spiriva and call your doctor if your breathing suddenly worsens,

your throat or tongue swells, you get hives, or have vision changes or eye pain. tell your doctor if you have glaucoma, problems passing urine or an enlarged prostate, as these may worsen with spiriva. also discuss the medicines you take, even eye drops. side effects may include dry mouth, constipation and trouble passing urine. my doctor said i could be doing more to breathe better and now i am. announcer: ask your doctor about lifestyle changes and once-daily spiriva. now yourard comes with a way to plan for what matters to you. introducing blueprint. blueprint is free and only for chase customers. it lets you choose what purchases you want to pay and those you split... interest...with full pay. you decide how to pay over time. if having a plan matters. chase what matters. eate your own blueprint at chase.com/blueprint.

'tis the season for christmas shopping? the holiday toy war is kicking off this year with retail giants already rolling out their battle plans. this week walmart and kmart unveiled aggressive campaigns to target the budget conscious shoppers. joining me now live is elan, retail reporter for "the washington post." good morning. >> good morning. can you explain why the holiday retailers are getting going on this season so early? i mean we just hit october two

days ago. come on. >> yes. well, the reason why is because the holiday season makes up 50% of toy retail sales. obviously they're not taking any chances this year. you now, the best estimates that i've seen for retail sales this year put sales at flat. so in order to get to flat they're trying to make sure they throw the punches early. >> there are a few similar strategies at work. let's go through them. walmart has got 100 toys priced at $10 or below. kmart has their fab 15, 15 toys priced from $11 to $100. they're encouraging lay away programs. toys "r" us are opening 80 temporary stores through the holiday season in malls across the country. of these three proposals are there any you see as being more likely to be successful than the others? >> well, walmart is, obviously, the largest toy retailer in the country and they have been known for being very aggressive on price and we know right now that price is what consumers are

looking at. i mean, some of the toys that walmart is putting on sale for $10 were originally $15 or $16. that's something that consumers are looking for this season. however, you know, many retailers are looking for ways to sort of get to consumers in different places than they have before. a lot have complained they can't find toys inside malls and so toys r us strategy to reach shoppers while doing other christmas shopping is one that's important to look out for. >> this walmart $10 toy thing is an expansion of the program that was successful last year? >> exactly. they started this last year and last year walmart was really the first one out of the gate by saying that we're going to put ten of the most popular toys for the holiday season for $10 and that program was so successful they expanded it to 100 toys this year. >> elaine for "the washington post" thank you so much. >> thank you. more than half a million doses of swine flu vaccine will arrive in 25 states and cities in a few days. the vaccine shipments marked the

beginning of an unprecedented effort to get americans vaccinated against a pandemic flu. a lot of confusion out there surrounding the virus and vaccine. joining us now to help clear up some of that confusion, dr. anthony voucher, allergy and infectious diseases. good morning and welcome back. >> good morning. >> doctor, people are concerned about the safety of the swine flu vaccine, especially for their children. is it 100% safe? >> well, you can never say anything is 100% safe but the safety record for vaccines that we get every season, which is strikingly similar to this, is a very, very good safety track record. people need to understand tens and tens of millions of people get vaccinated with the seasonal flu vaccine and this h1n1 is made by the same companies with the same material with the same processes. only a minor change in the strain. we call it a strain chain. for the most part, we feel confident that track record will be maintained to very good

safety. >> let's talk about the pregnant women throughout. this is scary numbers to report. the cdc this week shared 100 pregnant women infected with the virus were hospitalized in intensive care units in the first four months of the outbreak. 28 died. however many pregnant women are reluctant to get such a new vaccine. what should they do? >> they really should be vaccinated, alex, because in this particular situation, with the h1n1 it's clear pregnant women are susceptible to the complications associated with influenza, particularly those that give you serious disease and as you heard the tragic cases of the people who died during their -- the situation because of the complications. the risk of a vaccination is far far less than the risk of the complications that you would get if, in fact, you got the flu. if my wife were pregnant i would strongly recommend she get

vaccinated. >> that says something right there. why do we need to be worried about swine flu more than the typical seasonal flu, especially among young people? >> well for two reasons. you mentioned one of them. first of all, it is a virus that never has been experienced before in society and global society, so it's spreading rapidly. the sheer numbers of people who will get infected are more. more importantly, unlike the seasonal flu, when you think of the catastrophic complications that occur, they occur fundamentally in elderly individuals, 36,000 deaths each year from seasonal flu, 92% of them are individuals greater than 65 years old, mostly greater than 80 years old. what we're seeing now with the h1n1 is in the rare situation where you get a serious complications it's skewed towards younger people. that's -- even younger people who have no underlying conditions a third of the people who get into trouble are people otherwise healthy but they're young. that's different than seasonal flu.

>> okay. can you tell me the difference between the flu mist and flu shot and for whom either is more appropriate? >> well, the flu mist is something that you blow it in through your nose and that's something that is available for people 2 years old to 49 years old. that is an aten waited virus, not completely killed but safe. the flu injection is a shot completely inactivated and anyone can get that except, obviously, infants less than 6 months old shouldn't get any because they don't respond to them. so there are different populations that get them. they're both effective and they're both good. >> okay. very quickly, how soon can someone go back to work if they've gotten h1n1? >> well the recommendations are that at least 24 hours from the time that you have no fever without being on any anti-fever medications. that's the general recommendation. >> dr. fashion uci, thank you so

much. >> good to be here. >> still ahead, should the president share the blame for the failed olympic bid, that story in our next hour on "msnbc saturday." . new swiffer wet mopping cloths

clean so deep... it's like your old mop's worst nightmare. ♪ [ thunder crashes ] [ man ] love stinks. ♪ love stinks! ♪ yeah! yeah! [ female announcer ] swiffer wet cloths clean better than a mop with new cleansers that attract dirt deep into the cloth and lock it away. new swiffer wet cloths clean better, or your money back.

there's a new movie giving many audience members the creeps. paranormal activity is an edge of your seat thriller a couple aels home is invaded by an unwelcome guest and they set out to find out what is going bump in the night. they find out it's anything but a casper friendly ghost. >> somebody's here. he was breathing on me. >> it's not a ghost. what is it? >> well, joining me live is "washington times" film critic sonny bunch. good morning to you. i'm going to ask you the question asked right there, what is it? what is it that we're talking about in this movie? >> it's a demon, in fact.

not a ghost. this woman who moves in with her boyfriend has been haunted her entire life by some sort of unnamed, unexplained deemen. she's seen it when she was 8 and 13 and now that she is kind of older and moved in with her boyfriend it's come back with a vengeance. >> i presume she didn't tell the boyfriend about that before moving in. maybe the movie didn't address that? >> no. little touchy, yes. >> okay. what about the movie overall were you scared watching it? >> it is a terrifying movie. it does a good job of creating tension out of the unseen, kind of the bump in the night and lights flickering off and on mysteriously. it does a very good job of not throwing things at the audience, but really kind of just building a mood. >> okay. and this takes place all within a house, except one point they go outside on the patio. pretty much it's all within this house. is it a building kind of thing? are there scary scenes all

throughout or does it culminate in one final scene that's scary? >> the tension builds throughout the movie. at first it's just doors moving on their own and then there's kind of mysterious paw prints that show up. the tension really ratchets up as the movie goes along and it gets more and more frightening. >> you think this is going to be become a potential hit? >> it could. it's interesting the way that paramount is rolling it out slowly. only in 33 theaters right now, and it's kind of expanding more as audiences get -- become more aware of this movie and the buzz builds up they have been requesting that this movie comes at the movie's website and once they reach a certain threshold they'll send a print out and have midnight screenings and creating a lot of buzz. >> can i get the details of this steven spielberg story after seeing the movie, the door to his empty bedroom inexplicably locked from the inside and that forced him to summon a locksmith, it scared him? >> it's true.

it was reported, if you read it in the newspaper it's probably true. no. it was a creepy thing and my understanding was spielberg was interested in remaking this and we'll see if that actually happens now. >> okay. sonny bunch from "the washington time times", thank you. >> thank you. still ahead the fallout from chicago's failed pinch for the olympics. did the president take a hit and did the cornies from the windy city let him down? this is "msnbc saturday." announcer: trying to be good to your heart? so is campbell's healthy request soup. low in fat and cholesterol, heart healthy levels of sodium, and taste you'll love. chef: we're all kind of excited about it. guy: mmm! i can see why. announcer: campbell's healthy request. m'm! m'm! good! for your heart.

(announcer) we understand. you need to save money. a tornado hits, air life denver takes off... their night-vision goggles keeping the rescue mission safe... and powering those goggles-- the only battery air life trusts: duracell. trusted everywhere.